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and just three points in nevada where the debates are taking place tonight. with both romney and the president wrapping up final debate practice yesterday, joe biden was in north carolina and paul ryan in iowa. they traded jabs over the middle class. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been buried. we agree. >> mitt romney is under pressure to give more details into both his tax reform proposal and plans for the middle class. yesterday, he finally offered up an idea saying in order to pay for his reform each taxpayer would have a limit on how much they could deduct. the number he threw out was $17,000 and compared that to a bucket saying you can take whatever deductions you want but once you hit $17,000 that's it. we heard his plan for undocumented immigrants. he would not revoke the temporary limitations adopted by the president but if elected there would be no more protections. we're coming back after the break. >> i wouldn't be where i am today if it wasn't for capella university. i go to work every day and know that i
: welcome back to denver where we're previewing tomorrow's presidential debate. if romney is the grandfather of obama care and obama the father, then we should get a chance tomorrow to learn just how far the apple actually falls from the tree. here to discuss one of the most intriguing debate topics for tomorrow, healthcare is political correspondent for the atlantic molly ball and dave sirota cohost of the run-down with sirota and brown. molly, let me start with you. it has always struck me as bizarre, almost hypocritical for mitt romney to attack obama care the way he has. he himself mitt romney was in fact the first political voice to say the individual mandate is critical. he got it passed. much to his credit in massachusetts. how can he get away now with it being bad for the nation? >> i'm curious to see what mitt romney says about healthcare in this debate because in the last few weeks we've heard him inching closer to a defense of the mandate and of his own healthcare law which he never actually repudia
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